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How I got more than 3 Fastpass+ per day and Park Hopped using Fastpass+

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UPDATE:  December 13, 2013  I’ve been told by a number of people that Disney has patched this issue, bu the patch just created a new issue where the app is MUCH less responsive and often locks up when someone is trying to make a change to their choices.

UPDATE:  December 9, 2013  Two different iPhone users are reporting that Disney has finally fixed this issue on iPhone.  I’ll report soon on the status of Android phones.

I’ve debated for several weeks whether or not I should post this information.  I’ve successfully used these tips on many days in the park to test it out and make sure it works every time.  It doesn’t really benefit me personally because I’m local and can ride these attractions any time I want.

A little background first.  My brother and I have designed a few apps over the last couple of years.  They started out pretty rudimentary and have gotten better as we’ve gone along.  I won’t use this post to advertise them with links, so I’m not seen as a barker.  My role has always been to design the app and create and maintain the data while my brother does all the nerdy, techie stuff that makes it work.  After we get it completed we take the apps through Alpha and Beta testing.  I’m usually the Alpha tester.  It’s my job to see if I can break the app and make sure it functions like we designed it to do.  I usually find hundreds of issues early on before sending it to willing Beta testers to see what they find.

Disney has poured a LOT of money into it’s new MyMagic+ and Fastpass+ systems (I can’t wait until the stupid + is done.  It requires too many Shift key entries).  It’s been estimated that they have spent a BILLION dollars on all kinds of improvements whether internal or on the user end.  They have been Beta testing FP+ for months in different phases and bringing different resorts online slowly, then tweaking the options available such as the tiered system now in use at Epcot and FP+ only stays at Disney World hotels.  Their Beta testers are often off duty Cast Members.

I joined the FP+ system long after others in bloggerdom and wanted to see what it was really capable of, not just use it as it’s prescribed.  Disney wants it to only allow 3 Fastpass+ per day per person and they are even restricting that further with silly “Tiers” that guests have to choose ONE really good ride and TWO not so good ones.  So, I designated myself as Disney’s unofficial and unpaid Gamma tester (Alpha, Beta, Gamma..).  After learning how to join the system with a room only stay (not Pop Century at the time of the article) and learning to use the FP+ that was available, I wanted to begin testing to see what it COULD do.  I wanted to see if I could crack it, break it, spill chili dog on it etc…  So that leads me to this post.

I visited Epcot, Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios and was able to use the FP+ for 6 or more attractions in one day each time and decided it was time to test the biggest beast.  No, not Be Our Guest Dinner Reservations, I decided to take on the Magic Kingdom and its 20 or more Fastpass+ options and see how many times I could use ONE Magic Band, ONE account and ONE phone to use FP+ much more than the 3 prescribed  times in ONE DAY.  Who needs Paper Fastpasses when one person can do everything in ONE DAY with Fastpass+?

Here’s how the day turned out:

I took part in 26 different attractions at the Magic Kingdom today.  For TWENTY of them I used one My Disney Experience account linked to my Annual Pass for FP+.  It should have provided me with only THREE FP+.

  1. Astro Orbitor – no FP
  2. Buzz Lightyear – no FP
  3. Space Mountain – FP+
  4. Tomorrowland Speedway  – FP+
  5. Mad Tea Party – FP+
  6. Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh  – FP+
  7. Peter Pan’s Flight  – FP+  (Restroom break)
  8. Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid  – FP+
  9. Meet Ariel  – FP+  (Had a snack)
  10. Dumbo  – FP+
  11. Barnstormer – FP+
  12. Philharmagic – no FP
  13. Rapunzel  – FP+
  14. Cinderella  – FP+
  15. Prince Charming Carousel  – no FP
  16. it’s a small world  – FP+
  17. Haunted Mansion  – FP+  (Ate lunch.  My friends joined me to test this system on their iphones)
  18. Splash Mountain  – FP+
  19. Big Thunder Mountain  – FP+
  20. Pirates of the Caribbean  – FP+
  21. Jingle Cruise (used a friend’s paper FP, but could have used FP+)
  22. Magic Carpets of Aladdin  – FP+
  23. Repeated Peter Pan’s Flight  – FP+
  24. Enchanted Tales with Belle  – FP+
  25. Peoplemover  – no FP
  26. Monster’s Inc Laugh Floor – no FP

Attractions I didn’t attempt include Stitch’s Great Escape, Carousel of Progress, Hall of Presidents, Liberty Square Riverboat, Tom Sawyer’s Island, Country Bear Jamboree, Tiki Room and Magic Words with Mickey.  I could have done any or all of these if I so desired.  I walked at a very leisurely pace and enjoyed some time with friends as well.

I left the park at 5:00 after watching the Flag Retreat due to another commitment.

The point of listing the number and attractions is to demonstrate that it was repeatable.

This is how it’s done:

The images are from My Disney Experience online and the Android version of  the app with photos that you can enlarge at your choosing (long detailed post to ensue)…

Step ONE – Choose your 3 attractions that the My Disney Experience purports to limit you to.  I noticed today on the web version of My Disney Experience that you can supposedly “Prioritize” your selections.  Guess what, it didn’t work.  “Best Match” was merely ONE attraction and Option B had the options backward.  What more can we expect?

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You’ll need to choose TWO attractions that you are willing to do as late as possible in the day, plan to skip or plan to walk into like Monster’s Inc Laugh Floor and Mickey’s Philharmagic.  You really don’t need these Fastpasses at all.  We’ll accomplish the ENTIRE day with ONE Fastpass+ being reused of sorts at the Magic Kingdom and Animal Kingdom currently.  HOWEVER, if one wishes to use two FP+, then work with the third it works just as well.  If you’re planning at a time that offers Tiered Fastpass for parks, just move your Tier 2 Fastpasses to as late as possible.  You can then do all the Tier 1 attractions using your Tier 1 FP+ over and over provided that more than one Tier 1 is available.  Toy Story Midway Mania can be a bit of a pain to book around for example.

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Step TWO:  Move the two attractions that you plan to save for AS LATE AS POSSIBLE in the day or don’t plan to partake.  If you plan to Park Hop, as I’ll explain later, you’ll want the bottom two attractions to be things you don’t really intend to do or things you can just walk in.

  • Click “Change the Time”
  • Click “Select” next to the name(s) you wish to change.
  • Click “Next”

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Now choose THE LATEST TIME POSSIBLE.  In the scenario, I’m working with Jungle Cruise.  I want to move it from 12:05 to 6:00pm.  It may seem silly to do this, but it’s very important!Walt-Disney-World-Fastpass+-Testing-KennythePirate-5

As you can see, I’ve changed to the desired time, so I’ll click “Done.”

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I’ve now confirmed that Jungle Cruise is for 6:00 pm.Walt-Disney-World-Fastpass+-Testing-KennythePirate-7

Step THREE:  I’m going to repeat step two, but I’m choosing The Magic Carpets of Aladdin to move to THE LATEST TIME POSSIBLE.Walt-Disney-World-Fastpass+-Testing-KennythePirate-8

Because FP+ limits you to one hour blocks that do not overlap, you must choose the latest time, which for me on a Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party night was 5:00 pm.  You’ll have more time to finagle when you visit on a day with longer hours, but it’s pretty irrelevant.  5:00-6:00 and “Next”
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We’ll confirm our choices and click “Done.”  You’ll become dear friends with this confirmation page later in the post.  I know this seems pretty rudimentary right now, but a lot of guests have ZERO experience with My Disney Experience, so I want to make sure we’re all on the same page.Walt-Disney-World-Fastpass+-Testing-KennythePirate-10

Okay, all set up for the big day!Walt-Disney-World-Fastpass+-Testing-KennythePirate-12

Okay, KtP, why did we place one FP+ near the beginning of the day and two near the end?  Because we want to open up space to add flexibility to our Fastpass+ usage.  We’re going to use that FIRST FP+ over and over and over throughout the day.  What I discovered about the MDE App is that it tends to act as a “shopping cart” of sorts.  Imagine going to namebrandstuff.com and choosing a new turkey baster.  It places a hold on that turkey baster for a set limit of time and usually notifies you that it is the case.  “You have x minutes to complete the purchase.”  Well, Fastpass+ seems to use a very similar idea that I’ll explain for you.

STEP FOUR:  ALMOST select and New Attraction before riding.  Here’s where it gets good.  Okay, you’re about to board Space Mountain using your FP+ that you pre-selected.  BEFORE you tap the first Mickey Touch Point at the attraction, you’ll want to begin the process of choosing a NEW ATTRACTION.  Huh?  Why do I want to want to choose a new attraction before I’ve even ridden.  You don’t, you just want to get VERY close to choosing one.   This must be done EXACTLY as I tell you or it won’t work or you’ll get an error message at the Touch Point.  Trust me, I’ve spent about 3 weeks testing this to make sure it works for me (At least until Disney MDE programmers read this) and I’ve seen how it can fail if it isn’t exact.  It’s easy, but it can’t be done differently.

We’ll start using the actual MDE App in the park now.  Get a phone with a great battery, a juice pack or bring your charger!

  • Open the app and wait, you may have to wait and wait or wait and wait and wait.  I observed that the Android app was much slower to respond than the iPhone app.
  • Click the drop down menu on the left and select “My Reservations”Screenshot_2013-11-22-07-47-49
  • Select “Fastpass+”Screenshot_2013-11-22-07-48-00
  • Click on the day upon which you are working.Screenshot_2013-11-22-07-48-13
  • Click on “Update Your Fastpass+”Screenshot_2013-11-22-07-48-25
  • Click “Change a Faspass+ selection for a new selection or time”Screenshot_2013-11-22-07-48-44
  • Click on the FIRST selection in your list.  In my case it was Space Mountain.  Remember, we are doing this BEFORE we ever enter the FP+ line.Screenshot_2013-11-22-07-48-50
  • Click on “Change the Experience” (You can Change the time if you wish to re-ride the same attraction)Screenshot_2013-11-22-07-49-00
  • Select the Party Members to which you want this to apply and click “Next”Screenshot_2013-11-22-07-49-10
  • Click on the little block to the left of the attraction you wish to travel to AFTER riding this ride and click “Next”Screenshot_2013-11-22-07-49-28
  • STOP!  Yes, I said STOP.  DO NOT click “Done.”  If you click “Done” before boarding the attraction you are about to join the FP queue for you are going to mess everything up.  I accidentally backed out of this step after one Mickey Touch Point at the Rapunzel meet and it messed me up and I had to begin working on the second FP+ option.  I messed up again at the second Peter Pan’s Flight because I was talking and clicked “Done” and it blocked the second one and I was left with only the ability to edit the third one.Screenshot_2013-11-22-07-49-34
  • Darken out your screen to save battery, but DO NOT CLOSE THE APP.  Remember, we don’t click Done yet also.
  • Tap your Magic Band to the first Mickey Touch Point at your attraction and it will turn Green.  Enter the FP queue.  Do NOT click Done yet either.
  • Tap your Magic Band to the second Mickey Touch Point at this attraction.
  • If you have a good cell connection or wifi connection, you can now click DONE on My Disney Experience.  Here’s the deal, you have about 30 minutes 25 minutes plus 3 minute additional warning period for a total of 28 minutes as of 11/26/2013 from the time you pre-selected that next FP+ before you have to click Done, even if you just used FP+ for a different attraction.  You may recall that I said that it acts basically as a shopping cart that is holding your reservation for you.
  • After you click Done, wait until the system completes the transaction before darkening your screen or doing any other thing with your phone.Screenshot_2013-11-22-09-27-44
  • Repeat the process over and over and over.  The times for your next attraction may not be to your liking, you may try to adjust the time or even change the experience to get something you’re looking for.  It basically offers you the next FP+ slot that available.

It’s actually quite easy to do this.  It requires a little effort and remembering not to click “Done” until you pass though BOTH Mickey Touch Points, but it’s a pretty simple method that I used to get 20 FP+ in one day with witnesses that it works.

How to use this knowledge to Park Hop using FP+

Because you’ve never used that FIRST FP+, or any FP+ as it is recognized by the system, you can now Cancel all your Fastpass+ reservations and make new ones for a different park.  Follow the same steps or just use your 3 new ones as you desire.

If you mess up and click “Done” at the wrong point or don’t have a good cell or wifi signal when you do click “Done,” you’ll lose the ability to Park Hop with FP+

DISCLAIMER: I do not guarantee that this glitch in My Disney Experience will work for any user. Furthermore, I am released from all liability for any damages, if choose to use this information for your own personal gain in any form. This issue has been reported to Disney in hopes that they will fix this broken system.


95 COMMENTS

  1. Could someone please verify if this method still works? I will be going to Disney during Springbreak of 2016 in March. Thanks!

  2. Hahaha. My fam of six (kids are 2,4,5 and 7) are going in May for the first time, and I was googling about the limit on fastpasses and found your post. Love it. Although it won’t work for us anymore, it was a great read. You have an awesome job. Lol. :) thank you

      • Unrelated, but someone on a Disney page pointed out to me that you are a painter! My husband has been an industrial painter for 17 years and just told me that if I can find him a job in Florida, we can move there!!!!!!! If you have any tips or specific companies that you recommend, I’d be happy to hear them!!! I miss Disney World =(

  3. Fun times at MK today. The entire FastPass+/MDE system crashed between 4-5 pm. Couldn’t use iOS App, website, or kiosks in park. Complaining to a cast member got me 8 paper fastpasses good for any ride. (My group was only 4 people).

  4. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DO THIS!!!! THE APP HAS BEEN FIXED/PATCHED…WHATEVER! TRIED IT ON THE FIRST DAY OF OUR TRIP AND IT DID CHANGE THE FAST PASS TO THE NEW FAST PASS I WANTED BUT THEN….ACK!!!! IT SCREWED UP THE APP COMPLETELY FOR THE ENTIRE DAY!

  5. Can anyone confirm this is still working? Thank you. We are at Disney now on our first trip with our 2 1/2 year old twins and waiting in lines is not easy for them :). Thank you in advance for any info. You can provide.

  6. Hi Kenny, question for star wars weekends. Do you know if they will let us use fast pass+ to reserve meet and greets, with the star wars actors, instead of having to line up for fast passes the morning of?

  7. Just curious, if there are many people manipulating the system to get many fast passes, including using both fast pass systems, wouldn’t that cause higher wait times for those that don’t have access to fastpass+? After what happened to the guest assistance card after much abuse, maybe they will opt to go with a pay system like universal.

  8. Thank you for the info. And hope your injury is better soon!
    Wanted to clarify, you said you use both fast pass+ and paper fast pass. Does that mean you use them both in the same day?

  9. I hope your info is not correct and this is still working. As an annual passholder this isnhuge for us since we take a lot of spontanious days in the parks. We used thisn2 weeks ago and it worked like a Charm at Studios. Hopefully it still works. Thanks for all your work.

  10. Regarding your notice that you’ve reported this to Disney, doing this is called “full disclosure” in the industry — it’s where you expose the exploit to the public in order to put additional pressure on the vendor to fix the issue. Typically it’s deployed for security bugs and a decent lead time is given to the vendor to patch the issue before the disclosure goes public. Unfortunately, in many cases, it’s the only way to get the vendor to actually fix the exploit. Just a little fyi ;)

  11. You mentioned that you chose “undesirable” or rather easily available Fastpass+ picks for your evening choices. Does this matter? If I want Wishes seats for the evening as my third choice, does that break your system? What about saving some desirable Fastpass+ for the end of the day…say around 5pm in Animal Kingdom if I chose Expedition Everest for that time? I understand the need for the tier 1 fastpass to be at the beginning of the day so you can keep riding tier 1 rides, but does it matter all that much for the other 2 parks? Does Disney secretly limit the amount of “desirable” Fastpasses you have in those parks? Or is it more that you just are riding more desirable rides first and savings those for the end of the day anyway?

  12. Am I reading correctly that once in the fastpass+ system you can use it with just an annual pass (after a stay on property)? Or are u staying in a disney resort every day u test fastpass+?

  13. Kenny, we are heading to HS on Saturday and will try this out, but I have a few questions. We will not be arriving until around noon and with the tiered system our reservation for TSM isn’t until 5:40. If we wanted to try to get another trier 1 attraction (Fastasmic) how should we set this up in order to do it? Do we need to make our other selections after the 5:40 one we really want? Not sure how to make this work for multiple tier 1 attractions. Thanks for all the assistance.

  14. Just a report and a Thanks to Kenny! We used this technique last week(busy Thanksgiving) and it works awesome at MK, rode everything as much as we wanted, including MSEP and Wishes. More difficult at DHS, due to availability, but did work at the end of the evening and we were able to ride ToT and ST multiple times. Epcot was the same, didn’t attempt at AK. Didn’t try to park hop, was worried about messing it up and losing my DHS and Epcot non tiered FP+. I would thing it would work like Kenny says it does though. You Rock KTP!!!!

  15. I noticed that you keep saying that the app holds the new reservation for about 30 minutes. is that an estimate? I’m just wondering if it will hold long enough to get everything started outside the line, tap through and ride, then finish after exiting. Or did I mis-read some of the directions.

  16. What are the chances this hack is still working in the first week of January?

    If not, would I be better off with “old” Fast Pass, instead of FP+? I always was able to get 6-8 “old” FPs a day.

  17. Kenny, you found a glitch in a BILLION dollar system that benefits the people. You’re like a Disney touring Robin Hood. Thanks from the little guy.

  18. If you choose change the time to ride the same attraction over again, how much later is the earliest time option? Like would we have to wait an hour or not wait at all? Sorry if this is a dumb question. This info is so cool!

  19. Nice workaround. It will be interesting to see if Disney finds that enough people start abusing it to make it an issue and need a fix. How long does it take you to go through the whole process at each ride? Wondering if it’s even convenient enough for many people to bother with it or just diehards.

  20. I hope this isn’t a dumb question, but can I leapfrog over an existing time? I have our #1 ride scheduled second in the middle of the day and don’t want to risk moving it later (my son may not last all day).

  21. Thanks for sharing. I really hope Disney starts allowing users to choose FP+ options on the fly in the parks as if they were selecting paper fast passes. I will be thinking of you as “Mr. Incredible” from now on. :)

  22. Thank you sooooooo much for this! We are only able to visit every few years and this will make our visit magical! A lot of the complainers on the DIS do not embrace change easily and can’t work out those “new age” smart phones and your steps for how this works is so “complicated”, when essentially neither is difficult. You have made the information accessible to all to use equally and fairly. Also publically for Disney to change if/when they see the need. I want to thank you for sharing this and all the wonderful information on your blog. Thank you for going out on a limb and taking the unwarranted abuse from naysayers. Thank you, Thank you!

  23. When I visited WDW about a week ago, I used the FastPass+ system. I made some changes on my phone, as the day when on. Several days, I ended up with 4 Fastpasses on my phone. It would add a new one without cancelling the old one. I didn’t scrutinize what happened each time, but I know that I was looking at 4 on the screen. I was very surprised. Did this ever happen to you?

    • Yes. The other day the app gave me 5 FP+ for the same day on one page, but when I went to the change page, it only showed 3. It can be quite confusing. I stopped by a kiosk to check and it wouldn’t even load the account, but would load my daughter’s account. It does odd things at times.

  24. I’m sorry that people are judging you and saying harsh things. I think you are super smart for figuring this out, but I also think you probably aren’t the first to discover it. I feel like people are unfairly taking their anger out on you just because you are the first to get it out there. Others are likely taking advantage of this glitch and selfishly keeping it to themselves or making a profit from it. Whereas you publicly shared the info likely knowing it will get the attention it needs to get fixed/changed. Hope you ignore the harsh words from some and know there are tons of people that support you for each person that is not very supportive. Disney should put you on their payroll on their testing team!

  25. Oh wow Kenny thanks so much! We appreciate all of your hard work, we are going in a week and hope we can do this. Btw love the character locator app!

  26. Great work as usual Kenny – I wanted to tell you we totally used your multiple legacy FP system last week – we had our annual passes AND KTTW cards and maxed out the FP like crazy!!!

  27. Sure hope they don’t close this loophole. I would actually like the FP+ experience more than the legacy FP since there would be a lot less backtracking.

  28. interesting! i’m guessing there are a few guests who use this, but most will be too nervous to try or not have enough battery life to work the system… impressive. may have to try this on our last day when we are repeating our favorites.

  29. Wow. I will be there tomorrow and I really want to try this but I am so nervous! Are there two touch points at each fastpasses attraction? Our first fastpasses + is enchanted tales with Belle. I really don’t want to lose that one.

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