Early Morning Magic and Disney After Hours opinion

My thoughts on Early Morning Magic and Disney After Hours events

I’ve been asked frequently on social media what I think about the new Early Morning Magic and Disney After Hours upcharge events that the Magic Kingdom is bringing to the forefront these days. Here’s my response:

Disney has officially announced the Disney After Hours events that cost $149 for 3 additional hours after park closing on several select attractions, free ice cream bars and bottled sodas and a few regular meet and greets remaining open.

Disney has not officially announced the Early Morning Magic program yet, but it was spotted on My Disney Experience and details were relayed to me by a trusted insider, which I posted today.  It will involve 1 hour and 15 minutes of early park time with 3 rides open and a breakfast buffet for a cost of $69  per adult and $49 per child.

I feel that the events seem overpriced, especially the Disney After Hours program.  If I could consume 10 ice cream bars and 5 sodas, I’m getting closer to breaking even on the investment.  I’m sure they will limit the ticket sales to under 3,000 and with number of rides open, the lines will remain short.

Early Morning Magic is closer to a valid price point for an Attraction Meal, which is in essence what this is, but still a tad high for my liking.  If you were going to drop $25 per person at Be Our Guest, $30 at Crystal Palace or $50 at Cinderella’s Castle just to toss down some scones and run to 7 Dwarfs mine train, you’re not spending much more to ride it, Peter Pan and Winnie the Pooh (every joke needs a 3rd part, right?) and you get a breakfast buffet as well.  As far as events go, it’s not horrible, just not cheap either.  If a few characters were roaming about, many would drop the $69 in a heartbeat.

I personally don’t need either event in order to ride these rides or meet characters.  I plan a great deal of park touring days for my clients who rave about all the short or non-existant waits.  But, some guests like the fact that they have a feeling of exclusivity and the ability to do some favorite attractions with little or no waiting in an event like this.

Many people are in a total panic, because internet fan forums and websites have them believing that Disney is going to eliminate Extra Magic Hours.  I personally believe that is nonsense.  I have noticed gradual cutting back on the number of days offering this onsite perk.  A few years ago Magic Kingdom offered multiple EMH days in June and July.  Up until this year, Easter weeks typically offered early EMH every day.  But, I don’t believe Disney is going to eliminate something they push so heavily in marketing.  It’s one of the few perceived perks most guests want.  It actually leads to a park being much busier than its counterparts on a given day and many guests want to do early EMH, but oversleep and mess up their entire day.

I do see this as an ‘in addition to’ offering.  If you are staying offsite and are willing to drop a few hundred bucks, you can take part in a scaled down version of EMH.  People are upset because Disney is “nickel and diming,” but isn’t that what every business does?  You like the new iPhone?  Here’s a case, here’s an insurance program, here’s an music download system, on it goes.  No one made you buy the iPhone, and no one forces you to buy the add ons.  It’s all a matter of what you want. You can enjoy the iPhone without a case or extra music subscription.  It’s  a take it or leave it option.

But won’t the park become insanely crowded?  Nope!
When this Early Morning Magic thing starts, it will likely limit the number of guests to a few hundred at most.  Disney isn’t going to be able to feed 4,527 people in Pinocchio’s Village Haus, nor would Cast Members be able to let that many in the park between 7:30am and 7:45am.  It’s meant to feel exclusive and you’re paying a premium for it.  I would say neither event will affect your park day in the least.

But everyone will be in line for 7dmt when I get there!  Nope!
Why would you ride something 3 or 4 times, then go wait in line for the same ride when the park opens?  Guests will likely do another ride in the area, then go eat breakfast from 9am to 10pm.  Disney After Hours might affect park crowds about 5% closer to closing, but you’d never really notice because you’re watching Wishes and MSEP anyway.

Early Morning Magic will ruin my pre-park opening photos.  Why?  
All these people are marching past the Castle with some fresh faced Cast Members leading the way to 7dmt.  Would you pay $69 to use an hour to snap photos at the castle?  From 8:05 to 8:50am the park will feel just as empty as it used to feel.

Early Morning Magic will ruin my opportunity ride 7dmt with no one around.  Could be the case.
Hey, it’s been something the CMs allowed to happen many days, but was never guaranteed.  One breakfast I was able to ride 2 times, another the ride wasn’t functioning properly and we were held at a rope.  It’s not a guaranteed benefit for an pre-opening meal, just something nice they were allowing.  If they limit these rides to only those with the special stickers, you will be held at a rope until the park officially opens, but still well ahead of the masses.

Final group I’ve seen vocally expressing themselves are the “We’re done with Disney” group.
Hey, I understand that the parks, food, merchandise and events are getting more costly.  I actually told you guys months ago that management realizes that the Magic Kingdom is often jammed near capacity and they want to make more from those people.  Goal is to make everything more exclusive and more costly.  Do you try to jam more disgruntled people in at a cheaper price, or charge more for slightly less people attending?  If they charge you more than you can afford, consider a new vacation option or wait for a great deal to come along and take part in that.  I love Disney parks.  I’ve been to all except Tokyo of those open so far.  I’d rather be in a Disney park than sit on a beach.  But there’s points when I say, “I can’t afford that” and bow out.  I wonder how many actually are done with Disney though.  Many will still go, maybe just downgrade accommodations, or stay offsite or not visit as often.  We moved here partly because it was cheaper for us to visit our happy place frequently.

I don’t really have a problem with these things, fireworks dessert parties or whatever other upsell they offer, but I may not participate in them.  I won’t look down on those who do or call them names though.  Maybe these things will help some hard working Disney Cast Member recover some lost hours recently too?  Keep it classy Disney lovers!

27 thoughts on “My thoughts on Early Morning Magic and Disney After Hours events”

    1. Depends upon whether people use it. If it’s popular, it will remain and could even expand. If it is not popular, it will go away.

  1. Oh, how I hope you are right about Disney After Hours! I was very disappointed to see my first of two MK days falling on a Thursday selected for this event.
    My plan had been to settle in around the hub at 7:30 for the night time parade and fireworks. Do you believe I need to dial that back earlier? We are a party of 10.

  2. Nice work as always Kenny. While we won’t partake of most of these new offerings plenty enough will I think. On the subject of exclusivity, my only beef has been with the villains. I don’t object to adding extra more exclusive opportunities for attractions. But their removal for exclusive-only opportunities is another matter. In a way that feels punitive. Charge extra for extra opportunity as much as you want. Let the customers decide if its worth it. But don’t take stuff away and make us pay extra for what was included in the price of admission before.

  3. Well stated Kenny. These are things people don’t have to do. In fact people complaining at the prices don’t HAVE to go to WDW at all. Nobody is forcing anybody to go. My parents were never able to afford to take us to Disneyland or WDW when we were kids. Were we damaged or have a terrible childhood because of it? No. My first trip to WDW was on my honeymoon in 1992. We couldn’t afford to stay on site. We really enjoyed WDW, but didn’t go back again until 2003 when we moved to Florida. We then took my parents for their 1st, 2nd and only times. Since 2003 I have gone every year except one (when I was pregnant and couldn’t ride rides). I chose to go to college to get a good job so I could go on vacations like these. I also chose to only have one child so I could afford to spend time with her and take her on trips like this. We all make choices that affect everything we do in life. Going to WDW is a choice, not a requirement, as are these extra events. Having done WDW so many years in a row, we are kind of ready for some of the new stuff (glad they’re investing in new). So this next trip we will only do the MNSSHP and our 2nd Disney cruise. And for those people thinking I live in Florida so it is easier and cheaper, I haven’t lived there since 2009. Even when I did live there I was in South Florida which isn’t much more convenient.

  4. Kenny-have you heard anything more on the Rivers of Light previews that might be available? And, by the way, thanks for the great article here, very well said, and I think you addressed it all in the perfect manner. Love your site. Thanks!

  5. Great article, great perspective. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into all of your posts. I read every single one and make my touring plans accordingly.

  6. Yep, yep, yep. Thank you Kenny. In addition to making some extra money for Disney…I see this as an attempt to move people through those early morning in-demand rides before park opening. Those that are willing to get up that early, would have been there for rope drop. By the time park opens, they have moved on to other areas of the park. If I signed up for this, I would bring some Tupperware, lol.

    I was bemused by all of the complaining…it explains why I see so many entitled kids in preschool/elementary. Entitled parents beget entitled kiddos. Perspective people! This is a publicly traded company that has stock holders to which they are held accountable. They are trying to make $$. I agree, toss in some characters and then it becomes interesting. It wouldn’t cost that much…

  7. I love your website but you disappointed me with this article. You made me feel like you don’t care about people like me who really love WDW and have been loyal fans for years but are now getting priced out of our favorite place on earth. I never thought you’d be one of those people who tells me to go someplace else to vacation. You have no idea what it feels like to hear that. I made so many wonderful memories at WDW, some with my parents who died too young. WDW was where my daughter and I went to heal and find laughter again after her father died. It has meaning for many people that goes way beyond just being a place to vacation. To no longer be able to afford to visit hurts. It’s heartbreaking for the two of us. But it hurts even more to be told just don’t go. I agree that we don’t need to do the extra stuff. But even the “specials” aren’t so special anymore when the basic costs keep rising. Please don’t make those of us who are less fortunate financially feel like we’re wrong to be upset or sad about being priced out of a place that is as special to us as it is to you.

    1. I don’t think I said anything uncaring at all. Disney has always been expensive. My parents couldn’t afford to take us as children, and I really wanted to go. I scrimped and saved and spent 3 of my honeymoon days at Holiday Inn main gate because I couldn’t afford onsite lodging. We had a great time. I brought my kids here on many value trips, a could of moderates and a few deluxes. I made sacrifices because it was something we valued doing together. My parents finally got to visit with us last year and it was a special time. With that said, one of our favorite vacations was a 2 week trek out west with many natural wonders. There’s nothing wrong with seeing more of the world, nor encouraging others to do so, especially if they cannot afford Disney. I didn’t tell you “don’t go.” You mistook my words based upon your feelings. It’s OK to feel sad for not being able to go or even disappointed, even in me, if you want. Disney prices aren’t going down, but these events aren’t required to have fun here either. I’ve been “less fortunate” in my life. We had to move in with in-laws when things didn’t go as planned many years ago and we lost everything. My thoughts at the time were on rebuilding our stability, not vacations. Memories are the best and I hope you get to have more here when things get better for you!

      1. I think what you just said is fantastic – I’ve been many times myself, partly because we lived in LA as a child and had Disneyland in our backyard and because my mom grew up on Space Coast and remembered WDW world opening and always wanted to share that with us. As I grew up, the trips changed – more camping, smaller/local/historical trips and less theme parks – partly due to travel cost from the middle of the country. My husband went for the first time last year with our kids on a vacation that we saved 2 years for. My kids get a “vacation” every year, but we focus on family fun and can make that in a tent or a Holiday Inn over a weekend. Yes – WDW is going crazy expensive, but I would rather save a couple years with tiny vacations in between as opposed to going regularly and being miserable in a large crowd. It’s all in perspective. :)

    2. I would say read it again, he stated options one of which was to try going somewhere different or maybe wait till it’s cheaper. He wasn’t telling anyone what to do :) peace out.

  8. Very well said Kenny, I feel the same as you! Everyone has their own perspective. Having children with special needs who have a hard time with crowds it is good to know that this is an (expensive) option.

  9. If they bring out the Seven Dwarfs for the event, I’d be buying! Even with your MNSSHP tickets I feel they are hard to see without a significant wait.

  10. They’ve oversold other events such as that Villains Unleashed catastrophe at DHS not that long ago. What makes you think they won’t oversell this?? I don’t have any reason to believe your ‘assurances.’

    1. I warned that Villains night would be a disaster well before it happened. But I met every character I wanted except one because I didn’t give up like most did. If you don’t like my “assurances,” that’s quite alright by me. Have a great night :)

  11. Very well said Kenny!
    I love Disney. I love the movies, I love the merchandise, I love the characters, I love the parks, I love the cruises, I love it all. But I also admire them as a business. Their marketing is phenomenal and they don’t miss an opportunity to make money- and that’s not a bad thing for a business! They put plenty of that money back into the parks creating more amazing experiences and providing excellent customer service. I don’t get upset about them offering these extra special touches. You don’t have to buy them or participate in them, but it’s an option for people who do want to (and can afford to), and it’s not hurting anyone who doesn’t. For 3 rides open I probably won’t personally be doing it, but add a couple of rare characters and I’ll be there in a heartbeat! Heck I spent a lot more (and ran 13+ miles) just to see some special characters at the half marathon, lol ;).

  12. Agreed. I do find the offering very similar to what the DVC in park only event contained perhaps it was a test ru

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